Toll and Roll(TM) conducted media coverage at the California GOP Gubernatorial Showdown on November 8, 2025, where Kim Yeater and Dr. Frank served as moderators. We spoke with and interviewed the candidates, spoke to many attendees and shared our mission. Our delegates were also interviewed as other media heard our conviction to our nations’s families.
We shared the story of Jonah Rief, whose kidnapping began right in California — exposing how Orange County has become the major hub for child takings and trafficking operations. This tragic case underscores why every public official must take seriously their duty to protect our children, families, and land/court records from corruption and abuse.
When we interviewed candidates running for Governor, we asked a simple question:“Do you know what your actual job is?”
To our surprise, not one candidate could answer correctly. None were familiar with the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, one of the founding documents that shaped our nation’s understanding of “property.”
In that ordinance, property was defined not only as land, but as family — including parents and children — as part of a person’s God-given rights to life, liberty, and estate. Over time, that definition has been narrowed to mean only land and material possessions, leaving out the human and moral foundation our founders intended.
The Governor’s foremost responsibility is to protect the property and lands of the people — and by the historical and lawful understanding of that term, that means safeguarding families, homes, and community sovereignty.
Every candidate we spoke with admitted they had never been asked this question before. Many thanked us for bringing it to their attention — but we are deeply concerned, and should be. Because if a person seeks to govern without knowing the lawful duties of the office, how can they possibly protect the people and the Republic they serve?
“Under the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 the duty of the Governor is to protect our lands and property — which by definition include our children and families. He/she is tasked with appointing a State Commissioner for oversight, not judges or courts, but a Commissioner to oversee the records and deal with fraud. Are you willing to commit that, upon taking office, you will order and oversee a full and complete audit of the land and court records, to identify those who have engaged in counterfeit, forged, and perjured filings — and hold them accountable through both civil and criminal penalties?“
Each candidate was asked to look to their left — toward our banner that read “Where is Jonah Rief?” — a reminder not only of the real human cost behind policy and politics, but of how much money is being made from that suffering. Our children and families should never be treated as commodities.
We came away from the event recognizing that many of the candidates were passionate speakers — most well-scripted, some genuinely engaged — and a few truly surprised us with their awareness of CPS corruption and the child trafficking crisis. Among them, Lewis Herms stood out as the only candidate to say directly, “It is the biggest business that must be stopped.” His words echoed the urgency we’ve been sounding for years — that protecting our children and families is not politics; it’s humanity. www.tollandroll.com Filmed and produced by Toll and Roll™ Media, with camera work by Ally Rose.
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In the following video montage Delegates Billie Powers and Matt Skarlatos interview each candidate to ask one simple, vital question: “Will you stand with the People and fulfill your sworn duty to protect our land, children, families, and property — and audit the land and court records for truth, responsibility and accountability?” Camera credit – Ally Rose.
The following three full-length interviews feature California’s gubernatorial candidates who sparked some of the most unexpected and thought-provoking moments of the day. Each was asked one simple question about the Governor’s true duty — to protect the land and the people upon it — a topic obviously not ever discussed on the campaign trail.
Caught off guard yet speaking with sincerity, these candidates offered unfiltered reactions that reveal both the passion and the uncertainty behind leadership today. Their answers are worth hearing in full.
There’s an old George Jones and Tammy Wynette song that says, “God’s Gonna Get You for That.”
It wasn’t about vengeance — it was about truth. A reminder that words and actions carry weight, and that standing by your word — and your duty — still matters. In times when politicians talk big but deliver little, that message hits home harder than ever.
Known as “The Possum,” George Jones became a living symbol of redemption and raw honesty. His public struggles and eventual recovery turned him into an unspoken advocate for second chances and the grace that comes from owning your mistakes. Though he avoided politics, he stood by veterans, small towns, and those quietly fighting to do right, performing for recovery programs and rural causes close to the heart of America.
Beside him stood Tammy Wynette, whose voice carried both heartbreak and hope — from the White House lawn to the living rooms of working families across the country. She sang for presidents and for people alike, bridging the gap between fame and faith, reminding everyone that loyalty, love, and integrity were still worth standing for.
Together, they embodied forgiveness, imperfection, and enduring love — themes rooted in faith, humility, and the human condition. To many, they weren’t just country legends — they were the voices of real America: flawed but faithful, broken yet unyieldingly hopeful.
And that’s the spirit we carry forward at Toll and Roll™ Media. We don’t just stand by our man — we stand by our plan.
Because when it comes to truth, duty, and leadership, the message still stands:
God’s gonna get you for that — if you don’t.
